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Hall Worthy? Mann and Theismann

As a Washington Redskins fan, I strongly believe that a lot more players should be in the NFL Hall of Fame. As a franchise we have made strides in the last few years with the additions of Green, Monk and Grimm, but there’s still more players that are deserving of a bust in Canton. Over the next week or so I’m going to take an objective third party look at some of the players that I believe may be HOF worthy.
Next up, Gary Clark and Joe Jacoby.

Charles Mann

Argument for enshrinement: He was a 4-time Pro Bowler and 3-time Super Bowl Champion. Made as many Pro Bowls and had more tackles than perennial HOF finalist Richard Dent, had as many sacks as HOF’er Howie Long.

Argument against enshrinement: 20+ defensive ends who are not in the Hall had more career sacks. Averaged only 7.5 sacks per season.

Hall of Famer in my opinion? No, Manley was better and he’s not in the going to the Hall. Mann was a solid player, but was never a superstar and was never feared by offenses.

Actual chances of making the HOF: Zero.

Joe Theismann

Argument for enshrinement: 1983 MVP and Offensive Player of the Year, 2-time Pro Bowler. Led Redskins to 2 Super Bowls, winning 1. Won 63% of games as a starter. His numbers are very comparable to other HOF QB’s from his era…Namath, Bradshaw, Staubach and Griese.

Argument against enshrinement: Took nearly 7 years to become a full time starter, took 3 years out of college to make it in the NFL. Never led the league in any passing category. Nearly threw as many INT’s as TD’s

Hall of Famer in my opinion? Yes. When judging players for the HOF you must look at similar players from their era, and in JT’s case the #’s are definitely in his favor. His QB rating is better than Griese, Bradshaw and Namath. His winning % is better than Griese and Namath. He won as many Super Bowls as Griese and Namath and had more TD’s than Staubach. He also had more yards than Griese, Namath and Staubach.

Actual chances of making the HOF: Slim, but there’s definitely an argument here. He’s never been close to being a finalist, so maybe he could get in via the Veterans Committee someday.

Cheers and Hail

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Posted by fatpickle    Date: Wednesday, July 14, 2010

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4/8-4/12 Happy Bdays

Happy birthday Charles Mann. Charles played defensive end for the Redskins for 11 seasons from 1983-93. #71 was a 4-time Pro Bowler who appeared in 163 games as a Redskin. Charles finished his Skins career with 82 sacks and 784 tackles. Charles also is a member of the Redskins Ring of Fame and one of the 70 Greatest Redskins. In retirement Charles started a business with Art Monk. Happy 49th Mr. Mann.

Happy birthday Mike Nelms. Mike played 5 seasons for the Redskins from 1980-84. Mike was an excellent punt/kick returner and backup defensive back who wore #21. Mike appeared in 68 games as a Redskin and was a 3-time Pro Bowler. Mike’s best season came in 1981 when he averaged 29.7 yards per kick return and 10.9 per punt return including 2 TD’s. Mike was also a member of the NFL’s 1980’s All Decade Team and one of the 70 Greatest Redskins. In retirement Mike was the long time owner of a Toyota dealership in Culpepper, VA. Happy 55th Mr. Nelms.

Happy birthday Mike Devereaux. Mike played 7 seasons for the Orioles over 2 separate stints between 1989-96. #12 came to the Orioles from the Dodgers in exchange for Mike Morgan and appeared in 878 games during his O’s tenure. Mike hit .251 with 94 HR’s and 403 RBI’s playing mostly CF for the Orioles. His best season came in 92’ when he hit .276-24-107. In retirement Mike now serves as a coach for the Orioles single A affiliate the Delmarva Shorebirds. Happy 47th Mr. Devereaux.

Happy birthday Lee Lacy. Lee played 3 seasons for the Orioles from 1985-87. #27 appeared in 338 games for the O’s, batting .280 with 27 HR’s and 123 RBI’s. Lee retired after the 87’ season, his 16th season in the bigs. Happy 62nd Mr. Lacy.

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Posted by fatpickle    Date: Monday, April 12, 2010

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Old Redskins Park Autographs Pt. 1

You’ve heard stories of my days spent at the old Redskins Park collecting autographs and memories. I thought I would start posting some of the collectibles I acquired during that time. Here’s a look at some of the football cards I had signed back in the 80′s. Next week I’ll post my 8×10 black & whites, which are my favorite items.

87 Topps Wilber Marshall. Wilber had a very unique way of signing; he’s left-handed and signs his name upside down and from right to left. Wilber was a bad ass!

1984 Topps Dexter Manley. There are many reasons to love this card, the mohawk is definitely one of them and the fact that Dexter even signed it “Mr. D” for me. Alas, this card and a few other autographs I obtained that day were F’d up by a faulty marker. Son of a…

1983 Topps Dexter Manley. Dexter was always super-cool and never at a loss for words…he was also so full of energy. The back of this card says that Dexter served as a Deputy Sheriff in Virginia…really?

1986 Topps Jim Lachey. Don’t remember a whole lot about the interactions with Jim other than he was quiet and polite. Thank you Bobby Beathard for the Jay Schroeder for Lachey swap.

1988 Topps Kelvin Bryant. Kelvin was one my favorite players during the 80′s. He was a great all-around back and had a 13 catch 130 yard 2 TD day against the Giants in 86′, it says so on the back of the card!

1984 Topps Joe Jacoby. Jake’s always been good to me, I’m hoping he’s the next Redskin in the Hall of Fame. All he did was block Lawrence Taylor, Reggie White and Too Tall Jones for a decade…and did it well.

1984 Topps Darrell Green. This is Darrell’s rookie card and is probably the only one in the group that’s worth much $$. Doesn’t matter, I wouldn’t sell any of these for any price…well I’d cut Bostic loose.

1979 Topps Doug Williams. This is also a rookie card and it’s mint. Doug also signed his SI Super Bowl cover for me, “To Doug, From Doug.” Unfortunately, it was with the same sucky marker Dexter used to sign “Mr. D.” Son of a…

1987 Topps Charles Mann. Charles was always super nice and cool. The faulty marker makes another appearance. Son of a…

1988 Topps Earnest Byner. Earnest was the consummate professional as a player and didn’t get the respect he deserved as a coach. Thanks Bobby Beathard for Mike Olpihant for Earnest Byner.

1982 Topps Dave Butz. Anyone remember the “Big Bad Butz” song made for Dave Butz? I need to find that, help me. I googled big bad butz and nothing but porn sites comes up. Per the back of Dave’s card “he performs week-in and week-out, playing often with injuries, and continues to get the job done in fine fashion.” I agree Topps, I agree.

1984 Topps Jeff Bostic. Jeff Bostic was not cool, he was not nice…it says so on the back of his card.

Cheers and Hail

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Posted by fatpickle    Date: Friday, March 26, 2010

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